Tuesday, February 10, 2026

The Public Should Not Be Subsidizing Private Nonprofit Events

When required City fees are redirected, the burden doesn’t disappear, it shifts to residents.

Dear Clayton Residents,

Good government relies on consistent rules and transparent decisions.

One of the simplest principles is this: when an organization uses public property, it pays the required fee. Those charges are not symbolic. They exist to reimburse the community for the very real costs the City incurs, closing streets, rerouting traffic, assigning public works crews, providing police presence, managing risk, handling wear and tear on parks, and completing cleanup and restoration once an event ends. Staff time is diverted from other priorities. Normal services are interrupted. Residents experience detours, noise, parking limitations, and restricted access to their own downtown. Those impacts remain whether a fee is collected or not.

At a recent City Sponsored Special Events Committee meeting, Carl Wolfe, president of the Clayton Business and Community Association (CBCA), asked during public comment that required downtown and park special-event fees for use of the entire downtown and The Grove be treated instead as sponsorship support for the City’s Concerts in the Grove series. Click here to watch the video of Carl Wolfe speaking at the meeting. 10:13 on the timer is where he starts to speak. (What he is suggesting may sound generous, but it can also come across as sneaky, and possibly illegal.)

But it is important to recognize what it means. This is not new money. It is a request to relabel funds owed for the exclusive use of Main Street, our downtown, including The Grove Park, and apply them somewhere else.

And remember, Mr. Wolfe is a former Councilmember and former Mayor. He understands how municipal finance works, or does he? He should know that when revenue owed to the City is waived or redirected, someone else ultimately absorbs that cost.

That someone else is the taxpayer.

Once those fees are paid, they are public money. They are deposited into the General Fund and belong to the residents of Clayton, not the CBCA, not event organizers, and not any individual requester. They are no different from any other user fees collected by the City. No private organization gets to pay a bill and then dictate where the money goes or reclaim it in another form. Public funds are controlled through the City’s budget process on behalf of taxpayers, period.

Over the past two years, CBCA leadership has pushed to cancel or reduce the special-event fee (as reflected in the Master Fee Schedule adopted in August 2023), despite the fact that the organization has been paying only a fraction of what comparable private users would normally pay. Public financial filings show that the CBCA holds more than $300,000 in the bank. By any reasonable measure, they have the ability and the means to meet their obligations without asking to shift those costs onto residents.

When events occupy our downtown, streets close, personnel are deployed, and cleanup follows. Those bills do not vanish. If the City does not collect the required fees, the expense shifts to residents.

Many taxpayers share a straightforward belief:
  • The public should not subsidize private organizations and their events.
  • Groups should raise sponsorships, donations, and vendor revenue to fund their own festivals. That is part of hosting them.
There is also a practical reality

The Concerts in the Grove already receives generous support from Clayton businesses, families, and volunteers. Residents may reasonably ask why money owed for exclusive use of public property should be rerouted away from the general fund and labeled something else.

Clayton Watch is focused on process, not personalities.

We are not aware of any adopted policy that allows mandatory rental fees to be converted into sponsorship credit.

If such authority exists, the City should identify where it is written, how it works, and whether it is available equally to every organization.
  • Consistency protects public trust.
A constructive path forward

Clayton has a proud tradition of voluntary sponsorships.

We strongly encourage the CBCA to return to that tradition. Since the Master Use Agreement (MUA) was canceled, the organization has stopped contributing financially to Concerts in the Grove, a sharp departure from prior years when support was routinely provided.

Choosing not to contribute while simultaneously asking to redirect money owed to the City sends the wrong message to residents.

If the CBCA wishes to support the concerts, it can do what businesses, families, and other sponsors do, write a check.

At the same time, it should continue paying required fees for the use of our streets, our downtown, and our parks, just as any other group would.

Clayton Watch supports community events and the many people who make them possible. But the financial rules governing public assets must remain clear, consistent, and fair.

Because when the rules are steady, trust follows. And when trust follows, Clayton wins.

Respectfully,

Clayton Watch

100 comments:

  1. Thanks for the heads up. This group seems to try anything to get one over on the citizens. $300K in the bank…what’s that all about?

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  2. Great late-night read. I hope the facts help put things in their proper place. The speaker in the video came across more like a used-car salesman than a former councilmember and mayor. Hard to believe.

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    1. There is so much more to this comment that needs to be said. This commenter points out that Carl Wolfe is a former council member and mayor. In fact, he was elected to be president of CBCA BEFORE his term as council member was up! The revolving door between city council and the CBCA board goes back 2 decades. In 2020, the revolving door opened up both ways as Holly Tillman, a board member at the time managed to get herself elected. The massive conflict of interest that exists as result of this revolving door will always be a problem. In addition, both Juile Pierce and Holly Tillman have had their spouses on the board of CBCA. As a result, we have had council members who do what’s in the interests of CBCA and not what’s in the best interest of the city. The CBCA should update its by-laws to prohibit former council members from being on their board for a period of at least 4 years for former council members. No council member’s spouse should be allowed to serve on the CBCA board. And if an existing board member decides to run for city council, that board member should step down immediately. For too long, the CBCA has acted as if it was government. There is reason we have separation of church and state in this country. But it’s obvious we need separation of church and nonprofit in the city of Clayton. And as for Carl Wolfe’s illegal demand: Carl, pay your bills to the city and focus on doing what you organization is supposed to. Stop asking for freebies!

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    2. Love your response! Everything you said should happen. Is everyone listening? Hear that, Tillmans? All the double-dealing is disgraceful.

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  3. And to think, the CBCA used to demand that the city manager, the chief of police, and the chair of the planning commission attend their meetings and deliver reports.
    How was that ever considered acceptable?
    After reading the comment above, it’s a lot easier to understand how it happened. - Martin

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  4. Great article. Thanks for keeping us informed. Without you guys, most of us would be in the dark. I enjoy their events, but enough is an enough.

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    1. Yes. They need to stay in their own lane and stay out of city hall.

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    2. We left, and will never return. This group is being run into the ground. I my opinion, it’s time for a change the leadership. Peggy

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  5. They are paying the fees requested. And you fail to mention the $50K that CBCA will give in scholarships. What other money has the CBCA given to the city over the years?

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    1. Why no scholarships last year? And why are they hoarding money?

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    2. Scholarships are not for the city. And if you look at the donations from the CBCA to city issues, it's more than half down. They are now paying for the appropriate fees reflecting today's market, and that is what bugs you, aggressive CBCA people. Nothing is free, and that is what the CBCA wants.

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    3. As a not for profit organization there is strict reporting they must do. I am certain they are and in compliance.

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    4. Maybe now they might be, but for years their books were not.

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    5. Apparently, they struggle to do their reporting. For the past several years their filings to the IRS have been done well past the deadline. A few years ago, their Treasurer failed to complete certain reports to the state. The organization spends more time demanding the city cater to them and subsidize them instead of the mission of the organization. Too many former council members have been on the board right after being on council. This last move by Carl Wolfe shows that all he cares about is pleasing the hyper political members, a very small group, who think they are entitled to run rough shod over the city. The overwhelming majority of members don't even attend CBCA meetings. It's a small group that makes so much noise. They are the ones who vote. Because of a rule they made up to bypass a quorum, a small minority votes on who they donate money to all the time. If the money is going to one their political friends, like say Holly Tillman's parade, the request gets fast tracked for a vote and she gets her money! But if the Historical society asks for money, it gets debated and sometimes they don't get anything. Money gets donated if it CBCA gets something in return. When it comes to the city, they demanded that donations meant they didn't have to pay their bills. It's not enough they are exempt from federal and state taxes, they want Clayton to give them even more subsidies. According to their most recent tax filing, which by law is a public document, they had 440k in the bank! Anyone can pull up years of their filings and see that their cash holdings have been increasing steadily. Here is the link to their most recent tax filing: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943373920/202513179349305741/full

      If you go back and review a decades worth of their filings, you will see the real numbers for the scholarships they constantly brag about. The figure is not 50k as someone claims here. It's much smaller. And some years, they don't do scholarships. Strangely, a couple of years ago, the children of two sitting council members got scholarships. While it's possible that the kids had the grades, the optics are not good as the two council members were defenders of the CBCA old contract where the CBCA didn't pay for using city property. Digging further into the past filings there is a footnote about money that didn't belong to the CBCA. The funds belonged to another entity that lost its nonprofit status and CBCA was somehow collecting money for them via questionable procedures. Carl Wolfe never addressed this. Some members were aware of the issue but were shut down and sidelined for asking anything about it. No one doubts that the CBCA does good things. However, they need to stick to doing those good things and get out politics. After watching the video, it's pretty clear, the CBCA would love to have you the tax payer pay for all their expenses and convince you that somehow they donated something to you.

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    6. 21,000 only for scholarships, not much at all.

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    7. Most organizations and companies do not cross the line of granting scholarships or other financial support to the families of the organization or company, so as not to compromise the integrity of those organizations and the process. The CBCA does not maintain that integrity in granting monies to Cloven and Tillman's daughters. Clove and Tillman were both sitting council members, and Matt Tillman was a CBCA board member; shady and disgraceful, whether the children earned it or not. It should have never happened.
      Wolfe, Cloven, and both Tillmans are some of the most underhanded members of this organization and community.

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    8. A sitting board member parent, two council member parents who fought to hang on to an unfair outdated contracted that was financially rewarding to the CBCA and a disadvantage to the city, ya no conflict of interest here!

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  6. The CBCA operates more like organized crime here in Clayton. If there are any CBCA members with a backbone here, they should demand that the bylaws state absolute separation between the city government and the CBCA. No more city council members immediately being elected to CBCA boards, as a previous poster suggested. There should be a waiting period, and vice versa, for CBCA board members who want to run for the city council. It is a clear conflict of interest, questionable ethics, and downright underhanded.
    I know many of us in Clayton are done with CBCA drama and the bad actors they have on board, especially Wolfe, from the city council to CBCA, and the Tillmans are just two of the underhanded.

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  7. I find it hard to believe that a former mayor and President of the CBCA would not know that user fees are paid to recover cost the city incurs for their events. It is also hard to believe he thinks the CBCA retains control of these funds and can direct how they should be used. Carl Wolfe quit playing games and sponsor the Concerts. With $300,000 in the bank you can afford it. Be a leader and stop whining about user fees.

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    1. Wolfe knows but is being slimy. They want an MUA agreement again. That MUA was only to be in place while the organization got on its feet years ago. It was NEVER meant to stay in place as long as it did. The CBCA is still mad because a non-CBCA member canceled it based on age (15+ years old), is not current with market costs, and only benefits the CBCA. The CBCA wants control over the city government that is as clear as day. They, along with the defunct pioneer, did everything they could to discredit the city, Wan, and anyone else they assumed wronged them. In truth, I wish someone would compile all the video, written, and photographic evidence of the CBCA's activity over the last 10 years and file a complaint with the IRS for acting as a political organization. The CBCA's bad actions outweigh any good they might do.

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    2. Agreed! The CBCA used to donate $ 5,000.00, but it dropped to $500 after they had their temper tantrum. The CBCA also tried to sabotage sponsors by calling them individually to ask why they were supporting the city. I'm sure you can all guess who did the calling. An earlier poster called it right, the CBCA behaves like a criminal organization with its loudest members calling people names and making threats whenever possible- distasteful.

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    3. As a past council member and mayor, he was one of the worst.

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    4. Carl Wolfe needs to pick the dictionary and look up, read, and understand the definition of a donation: A donation is a transfer of property or money without expecting anything in return. Let's read that again and then read it again and think about, and then think about again (there's a council member who posted something like this not too long ago): A donation is a transfer of property or money without expecting anything in return. WITHOUT EXPECTING SOMETHING IN RETURN. How many CBCA folks were at the podium demanding their former contract and repeating the message: BUT WE DONATE SO MUCH!!! So in return for those donations they EXPECTED in return not to pay for anything. That's no longer a donation. In the dictionary, that falls under the definition of a bribe.

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  8. The CBCA is a bunch of bullies. Why do you think many have left the organization, and they have had trouble getting volunteers for events?

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  9. For anyone interested here is the link to CBCA's latest tax filing. This is a public document. All non profits have to make this available to the public. You see the real totals in their bank accounts.

    https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943373920/202513179349305741/full

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  10. If you look at the public filings for the CBCA, they certainly are not as charitable as they would like you to believe. The CBCA's bottom line is quite large for wanting everything for free. I need new siding. Can I apply for a grant?

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  11. Why all this drama? Wofle made an ask at the meeting. For this to happen the City Council would need to approve it. If they do...then go to a city council meeting and express your outrage!

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    1. The drama might be because they made a lot of drama over the last several years?

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    2. We’ve seen this movie before. Several of the same figures tied to the civil grand jury problems are back again, and when they don’t get their way, turmoil seems to follow. At some point, the pattern becomes impossible to ignore.

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  12. The audacity of the CBCA President to request fees paid to the city--for city use--be earmarked for concerts in the grove so that their name be on the sponsorship banner is incomprehensible---yet not for that group. By the same token, do all those that pay the city a fee get to earmark where their funds go? Make this make sense, Mr. President.

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  13. the text of this "article" makes heavy use of chatgpt

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    1. And your point? I’ll bet they also used Microsoft word. Facts are facts. At a recent City Sponsored Special Events Committee meeting, Carl Wolfe, president of the Clayton Business and Community Association (CBCA), asked during public comment that required downtown and park special-event fees for use of the entire downtown and The Grove be treated instead as sponsorship support for the City’s Concerts in the Grove series.

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    2. I ran the article through AI and here’s what it said for anyone interested. “Short answer: there’s no reliable way to know for sure. Nothing in that paragraph definitively proves it was written by AI. It could easily have been written by a person who feels strongly about the issue.”

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    3. Sounds like the Clayton Watch Team wrote the article to me. I’m not sure why it’s important who wrote it, the article is spot on.

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    4. It was just someone with a grudge saying it was CHATGPT. God forbid someone write an opinion that disagrees with the CBCA

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  14. Alert the authorities, the candy has been taken. The meltdown continues. At some point, it might be time to grow up. Just saying Carl.

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  15. Just as someone who does not attend these concerts for a number of reasons, seating rules inconvenient for seniors, alcohol use and the rudeness that evolves from it, disinterest in the talent and when I did attend the in your face solicitation for contributions notwithstanding the "after event" effects of folks in surrounding neighborhoods ...I have to wonder why there is even this discussion? Shouldn't efforts be made in clearing up our fountain or the fact that our landscaping is full of weeds or ridding the City of the vandalism and dumping that we see all over or how about actually getting the services we pay for instead of deferring and banking the funds in sustainability accounts? Seems to me these would be a more worthy endeavor instead of two sets of children bitching at each other. Seems that folks her have lost their sense of real virtuous purpose.

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    1. Interesting way to look at this story. But perhaps this story might lead to this whole idea not being brought up again. We don’t need a repeat of the nasty fight they brought a few years ago. We do have other things that are more important and need to be done instead of going through another nasty fight with CBCA.

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    2. Who brought on the fight years ago.? The CBCA or the city council led by Jeff Wan?

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    3. If you remember, Wan was reviewing financials, including contracts, when he found the outdated CBCA contract that was 15+ years old and canceled it. There were also many other outdated contracts canceled during that year, but the only one to have a temper tantrum was the CBCA. Never should a contract last more than a year without being revisited and updated to reflect current market rates and ensure it is beneficial to both parties. That is what the CBCA doesn't understand, or doesn't want to comprehend.

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    4. So now we're back to the blame game. The CBCA must accept facts. The cancellation of a 15-year-old contract was good business for the city. Many companies had contracts canceled or not renewed during the year, and the following year, because they were not beneficial to the city and the finances they were trying to streamline and straighten out.
      CBCA leadership and membership need to grow up and stop the knee-jerk reaction and blaming people they do not like for everything under the sun. It is my experience that there are some really foul-mouthed and mean-spirited people in that group who love to call people names, make up things that didn't happen, and threaten people. Hmmmm, crimes, I would say, definitely not altruistic.

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  16. Great article. Thanks for the email update.

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  17. They should pay their own way. Taxpayers are finished being expected to cover the costs for everyone else, including illegal aliens.

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    1. Illegal aliens??? What does that have to do with this discussion? Ahh..nothing, just showing your ignorance.

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  18. I’ve been a longtime member of the CBCA, and while I recognize they’ve made mistakes, they also do many great things for our community. My wife and I have often said that a change in leadership could be beneficial. That said, I respectfully ask that we stop bashing the organization. Constructive dialogue will always be more productive than tearing people down.
    — Al

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    1. Al, members like you need to work to make those leadership changes. Recently two very political board members walked off. You are down to one board member, Carl Wolfe, president who is a past council member and seems to respond more to the political members of CBCA. He should not be allowed to remain on the board after his term is up. With a board made up of non politicians, no spouses to council members, no planning commissioners, the organization can focus on its mission and stay out of city hall. No one wants to bash CBCA. But you have to admit, the leadership over the last several years made up of former council members, council member spouses, planning commissioners has made organization seem more like a political party than a charity. In the video Carl Wolfe admits it was certain members not the board who urged him to make this ridiculous demand to have fees reclassified as donations for concerts. He is beholden to those members who are more interested in city hall than the mission of the CBCA. So please go to the meetings and get other members to do the same so that small group that has dominated all the past votes doesn’t continue to hijack your organization. And maybe encourage Wolfe to step down early?

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  19. “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.”

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    1. That group has a personality like a jellyfish. Not a duck. Stay clear!

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  20. Thanks for the email. You guys rock.

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  21. They need to pay their own way. No exceptions.

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    1. Agreed! No more city council members, their spouses, or planning commissioners serving as board members. The CBCA needs to return to charity work and stop with all the politics.

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  22. Why won’t this non-profit group back off? No wonder the city is so divided.

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  23. I’ve been asked not to respond, but here it goes.
    My wife and I are current CBCA members, and after reading everything, we feel we need to be honest. While we agree with some of the comments being made, the request by President Carl Wolfe was a mistake and should never have been brought up. It created unnecessary drama and distracted from the real goal, putting on great community events.
    We love Clayton. We volunteer because we want to bring people together, not divide them.
    We truly hope the CBCA and the City can reset, communicate better, and move forward in a positive way.

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    1. Your comment appears sincere. As was asked of another member who commented earlier, you need to get the members who don’t go to meetings to start showing up and put an end to the small group that has hijacked the organization both with the proxy vote rules that permit them to dominate the votes and influence Carl Wolfe. Your board has some good new people on it who are not interested in trying to take advantage of the city. Wolfe needs to know that he can’t be making requests like this anymore. No one wants to bad mouth the CBCA. At the same time, we all want CBCA out of city hall. Go do good in the community and please stay out of politics.

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  24. I just opened the email I received, read the article and took the time to watch the video. After seeing everything together, it really cleared things up for me. From what I can tell, many residents feel the same way, the CBCA should mind its own business. As someone who lives here, I want decisions handled openly and fairly, through the proper public process, not shaped by pressure from private groups or former city council members.

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  25. The video tells the whole story. Thanks for providing the link. Carl doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. He even seems to suggest that other CBCA members put him up to saying it.
    After serving as a councilmember and mayor, you would think he’d at least understand something as basic as when it’s his turn to speak.

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  26. I enjoy volunteering and supporting my community, but that particular group is not a place where I’m comfortable giving my time. The environment can feel bossy and rigid, and too often volunteers are made to feel unappreciated once their help is no longer needed.

    If you talk with many of the past volunteers from the bocce league, you’ll likely hear similar experiences.

    Thank you for the opportunity, but I’ll pass.

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    1. I have volunteered for two of the largest events over the past few years and can say with absolute certainty that you are correct. As one poster put it, here the loudest and most obnoxious members consider me persona non grata. I have been called all kinds of names and accused of things, as has my family. What I will say is that the people doing this to my family don’t speak to us face-to-face, even if we are in the same space; they do it from keyboards to pretend they are brave. Cowardness, in my opinion. This has gone on for years, and there has never been a precipitating event; they just decided that we didn't fit their mold because their nonsense doesn't manipulate us.
      This past year was the first time I had ever received a drink voucher, despite having volunteered many times before. It says a lot. I will continue to volunteer for these two large events, not for the CBCA, but for all the other wonderful, happy, and smiling faces who come to them. Their presence makes my heart happy, not the CBCA.

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  27. Thanks for the email notification. Your article is right on the money. When can we expect an update on the proposed sales tax and the landscaping? Taxes, taxes, and more taxes.

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    1. They will be on the ballot in November.

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  28. The old fights between CBCA and the city are old news. Great story by Clayton Watch but silly stunts like this by Carl Wolfe are nothing new. He’s got 10 months left as president of CBCA and he is termed out. Change is coming to CBCA for sure, nothing can stop that. Hopefully new leadership comes along that accepts that this is how the city will operate going forward and it’s time to move forward.

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  29. The loudest, most obnoxious, and aggressive members remain part of the organization. Those with common sense and reason are consistently outshouted by the aggressive and loud. We know who they are: the same individuals who have complained about the MUA cancellation, made terrible comments about anyone not participating in the pride parade, spoken negatively about concerts in the Grove, and during elections, supported the candidate who has made the most disgraceful and vile statements about this city while seeking support from others running. This makes no sense. Progressive liberals in this group are neither accepting nor tolerant of others. They only show tolerance if you conform to their beliefs and actions; otherwise, they resort to vile and destructive name-calling and threats. I refuse to accept or engage in such behavior. The CBCA is allowing itself to rot from the inside due to the behavior of these members and leaders. I would suggest a complete cleanout of these people, with the election of non-political members without ties to council or the planning commission, and with it written in the bylaws that no board position can be held by a former city council member, planning commissioner, or their spouse. If not, the rot will continue, and so will the decline in membership and volunteers. Clayton has had enough of a certain group always being divisive.

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  30. Great point. . .and so true. Thank you to Clayton Watch for shedding light on this issue when no one else would.

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  31. Why don't we let the city council do its job and respond to the request before going crazy on the CBCA and Carl Wolfe? If it is an inappropriate request they say NO..and that is that.

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    1. People have, as you put it, gone crazy because it is inappropriate. Event sponsorships are one thing, and event fees are another. Wolfe wants to mix apples with oranges and put the CBCA name on it. Sponsorships are monetary support for a city event. Event fees cover the city's costs to close streets, provide police, and deploy other city personnel for an organization's benefit. Do you see the difference? It's again asking for something for free and asserting that the CBCA sponsored concerts in the Grove, which is false. The only party to benefit from that transaction is the CBCA. No, thank you. If the CBCA wants its name on the banners, it can contribute like other sponsors.

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    2. Doubtful the council would ever waste staff time and council meeting time on this request. Wolfe should know better as a former council member and mayor that this request has serious legal problems. Several people have said it in the comments here and the question you should be asking is why doesn’t the Cbca just focus on its mission, stay out of politics and stop asking for freebies?

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    3. Because residents are allowed to have an opinion, and many are tired of being bashed by the political members of the CBCA.

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    4. The CBCA has steadily lost credibility with many residents. When an organization repeatedly overreaches and inserts itself into matters outside its lane, people eventually stop taking it seriously, and that’s unfortunately where the CBCA finds itself today.

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  32. I sincerely hope that residents of Clayton are reading these comments and comprehending the extent of activities carried out by the CBCA, Tillman’s, Wolfe, Cloven, and numerous others. It is evident that the city has been utilized by these individuals. I am deeply disheartened by the negative remarks and actions exhibited by senior members of the CBCA, their spouses, and their vulgar supporters. If this situation has not already clarified the reasons behind the city's misdirection, it should do so now. For those who doubt the information presented here, I recommend examining their filings, past council reports, and videos; reviewing online comments made by individuals to those they dislike; and considering what influenced Holly’s initial election. None of these actions reflected charity, kindness, or Clayton's best interests. Reflect on this, along with the negativity, divisiveness, and shame that has been brought upon our city by these individuals and Holly Tillman.

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  33. What’s being proposed isn’t generosity. . . it’s a shell game. Required public-use fees exist to reimburse taxpayers for real city costs. Rebranding them as “sponsorship support” doesn’t make the expense disappear; it just disguises who ultimately pays. Public money isn’t a marketing fund, and rules aren’t optional. Carl Wolfe and the CBCA suck!

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    1. 👆That right there!

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    2. But but, they give so much!🤣

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    3. To themselves😂

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  34. Agree. Someone on the CBCA needs to propose a change in leadership.

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  35. Please take heed, CBCA. Clayton is tired of your antics. Just stop it.

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  36. CBCA General Meeting

    As a CBCA member for over 15 years, I encourage many of you to attend and make your voice heard. This wasn’t easy to write, but here it is.

    Over the years, I have seen this organization at its best, and at times when it has felt testy and even vindictive. That is exactly why participation matters.

    When members stay silent, nothing changes. When members show up, speak respectfully, and hold leadership accountable, progress becomes possible.

    If you have concerns, questions, or ideas about the direction of the organization, the best place to address them is in the room.

    Please consider attending the upcoming CBCA General Meeting:

    February 26, 2026
    Clayton Valley Presbyterian Church – Fellowship Hall
    1578 Kirker Pass Rd., Clayton

    Social mixer: 6:00 PM
    Business meeting: 6:30 PM

    Please RSVP no later than Tuesday, February 24, at 5:00 PM.

    Enough is enough. If you care about the future of the CBCA, now is the time to show up and be heard.

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    1. Great idea...deal with one another face to face instead of behind all the anonymous stuff here on Clayton Watch. You might find more in common than you might think.

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  37. Thank you for posting

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  38. Can anyone go to the meeting?

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  39. Did anyone go and speak up?

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  40. Well CBCA had their meeting and Carl Wolfe repeated the same speech he gave at the city special events meeting. He went further and claimed he is in negotiations to make his request happen. Who is he negotiating with? Inquiring minds want to know! And of course for all the comments here about other members attending, the same usual loud and aggressive members who are the only ones who do attend gave him a standing ovation. Here is reality folks, CBCA will not change because the majority of the members don’t care and allow the 30 or so to push their agenda. The good thing is those 30 are all on their way out. It’s no secret they have not really increased their membership in years. The inevitable is coming as all the political folks cycle off the CBCA board. Hopefully Clayton Watch lets us know if the council ever takes up Wolfe’s ridiculous and illegal request. He can make all the claims he wants about negotiating. It’s not hard to find out he’s not telling his members the truth.

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    1. When a tiny echo chamber keeps applauding itself, it doesn’t represent the community. It just reinforces the problem.

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    2. The Council needs to put an end to this, firmly and publicly. Set the boundaries. Enforce the rules. Make it clear that City policy is decided by elected officials in the open, not by a dwindling private group that mistakes volume for authority.

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    3. Not really. This whole stunt is Carl Wolfe trying to appease the small group of lunatics within CBCA. The council isn’t entertaining this crazy demand at all. It’s theater and as one comment stated earlier, echo chamber. Will the CBCA exist in 10 years? Doubtful.

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    4. CW lies, lies, lies just like a rug

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  41. Carl Wolfe repeated the same speech at the CBCA meeting that he gave at the City’s Special Events Committee, only this time he added a new twist. Now he claims he’s “in negotiations” to make his request happen. Total bull shit.

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    1. I spoke with the city manager. He stated, with absolute resolve, that the city is NOT in negotiations with the CBCA. Again, CW is spinning things to try to look good. I also suspect Holly has a hand in this storm.

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  42. Wolfe is probably in negotiations with Holly. He is not smart enough to know he needs 3 votes to move his nonsense forward.

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  43. I can say with absolute certainty that Carl Wolfe is NOT in negotiations with the city. CW is pacifying the loud, aggressive bunch.

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  44. Let's take a look at audited financials to be discussed at next CC meeting. Looks like $640K shortfall?

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    1. That is not correct. But yes, lets look at the audit, like the fact there are no material weaknesses unlike under Wolfe Cloven Tillman majority when the books weren't reconciled for 18 months and the city was defrauded to the tune of 50k. And let's elect more CBCA people to the council! Whatever "shortage" there is, there is plenty of money that wasn't spent in years past because things weren't done. CBCA people will continue to spin the lie the city is going broke all so they can get their people elected so they can have the city for free again. Good luck with that message.

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    2. What is correct number

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    3. See page 83. Excess (Deficiency) of Revenues over Expenditures (552,429) (611,382) (640,854)

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    4. Yes and page 83 there is also an adjustment you left out. I wonder if you are the same “expert” that not too long ago was complaining the council wasn’t moving fast enough to raise your taxes. Or perhaps you are an expert that once worked for an oil company. First of all this “deficiency” you are talking about was projected when this budget was voted on. The word deficiency has no bearing on the audit itself which if you watched the presentation at the council meeting tonight you would have seen how there were no material weaknesses or issues unlike when Wolfe Cloven Tillman were in charge. You obviously have no real knowledge about anything with this audit or past audits. If you want to try to spin this into an issue, please go ahead and try but you will find that you will end up debating several real experts who do understand this audit and the city finances. It seems the CBCA and their allies will reach for anything to try to scare the public the city is going broke, blame it on this council and then run their members to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. Their first solution of course would be to give everything to the CBCA for free.

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  45. Holly is nothing more than a lame duck. She only worries about herself.

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  46. "And, I'm in negotiations with my cat over who owns the couch."

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  47. It just proves the CBCA has no interest in stopping the constant divisiveness within the city and the manipulation to get a free ride instead of paying what is owed to the city while trying to take credit for a sponsorship. The leadership of this group, recent past and present, is all miserable, ego-driven arses. Nothing about this group says charity. It's all about what they can get for the minuscule amount they part with. The proof is in the pudding; look at the filings.

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  48. No comment — just claiming the #100 spot before someone else did. Great site… keep the good stuff coming.

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